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	<description>The thoughts, ramblings and day-to-day experiences of Richard "Ozzy" Osborne</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Bannatyne way, or the Osborne way? by Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/16/the-bannatyne-way-or-my-way/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

I think if the paperwork or "thing" is central to the business idea, then it makes perfect sense to do the work yourself. In Duncan's case he managed to find his niche by understanding all the legislation - which was a huge factor in determining his successful business model.

If the paperwork or "thing" isn't core to your business model (i.e. a corporate website or your accounting) then it's probably better to farm that work out to save time.

Example - If I was running a printing business, I'd be foolish to trust someone else to design my own business card. Any other sort of business (where business cards are not central to the business model) would simply pay for cards to be designed by a printing company.

I think Duncan's point was to take control and be  knowledgeable of the things that will ensure success for your business. I do agree though that he possibly could have saved his time by getting someone to form his company for him, though I suspect he wanted to learn about this process so that he fully understood what was involved. Perhaps doing this at least once would help all business owners, if only for the experience. 

Great blog by the way, I'm a new reader but am quickly going through the archives! I hope to read more soon.

Thanks,
Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I think if the paperwork or &#8220;thing&#8221; is central to the business idea, then it makes perfect sense to do the work yourself. In Duncan&#8217;s case he managed to find his niche by understanding all the legislation - which was a huge factor in determining his successful business model.</p>
<p>If the paperwork or &#8220;thing&#8221; isn&#8217;t core to your business model (i.e. a corporate website or your accounting) then it&#8217;s probably better to farm that work out to save time.</p>
<p>Example - If I was running a printing business, I&#8217;d be foolish to trust someone else to design my own business card. Any other sort of business (where business cards are not central to the business model) would simply pay for cards to be designed by a printing company.</p>
<p>I think Duncan&#8217;s point was to take control and be  knowledgeable of the things that will ensure success for your business. I do agree though that he possibly could have saved his time by getting someone to form his company for him, though I suspect he wanted to learn about this process so that he fully understood what was involved. Perhaps doing this at least once would help all business owners, if only for the experience. </p>
<p>Great blog by the way, I&#8217;m a new reader but am quickly going through the archives! I hope to read more soon.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nick</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Importance of Shareholders Agreements by The Benefits of a Joint Venture - UK Business Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/06/the-importance-of-shareholders-agreements/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>The Benefits of a Joint Venture - UK Business Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just like 50% of all business partnerships, hence my previous blog about the importance of have a Shareholder Agreement.  Since then I have always taken the view that I wanted to own 100% of my business interests, never [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just like 50% of all business partnerships, hence my previous blog about the importance of have a Shareholder Agreement.  Since then I have always taken the view that I wanted to own 100% of my business interests, never [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Importance of Shareholders Agreements by The Blog of an Entrepreneur &#187; The Benefits of a Joint Venture</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/06/the-importance-of-shareholders-agreements/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blog of an Entrepreneur &#187; The Benefits of a Joint Venture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I first started up in business my first business was in a 50/50 partnership, but we didn&#8217;t really agree what each of our objectives were or what each others roles were going to be in the business. Needless to say, after a couple of years the business relationship broke down. Just like 50% of all business partnerships, hence my previous blog about the importance of have a Shareholder Agreement. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I first started up in business my first business was in a 50/50 partnership, but we didn&#8217;t really agree what each of our objectives were or what each others roles were going to be in the business. Needless to say, after a couple of years the business relationship broke down. Just like 50% of all business partnerships, hence my previous blog about the importance of have a Shareholder Agreement. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are we heading into a recession, or is it Mind Games? by Alan Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/27/are-we-heading-into-a-recession-or-is-it-mind-games/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 12:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately you are applying a micro economic situation to a macro economic one.
Your father in law is actually in the sector of individuals that would be substantially affected by rising prices. He only has a fixed income without the ability to move jobs or ask for a pay rise. He could take on a part time job but that would be taxed therefore possibly not giving him the incremantal income that he requires therefore his first (and most effective short term)option is to remove expenditure on non essentials.

Regarding the property market we are told that many people have taken out credit on the basis of the increase in equity in their properties. We are now in the situation where the banks are now reigning in credit. Even the last reduction in base rates by the Bank of England was not passed on by the banks but merely used to shore up their profits so could we not postulate that the cause of this 'impending' recession has been 1) The greedy banks who place their profits above all else and 
2) The 'pulling forward' of expenditure by the readily available credit (Again the fault of banks chasing greater profits) which has created a glut of spending.
3) The governments strategy over the last two terms has been to run the economy at a deficit on the basis that they will look at 'sustainable debt' over an economic cycle. Well that debt is now going to come back to haunt them as the previous strategies of governments is to borrow money during recessionary times to smooth out the impact. That strategy is no longer available as the UK has probably reached the limits of its own available credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately you are applying a micro economic situation to a macro economic one.<br />
Your father in law is actually in the sector of individuals that would be substantially affected by rising prices. He only has a fixed income without the ability to move jobs or ask for a pay rise. He could take on a part time job but that would be taxed therefore possibly not giving him the incremantal income that he requires therefore his first (and most effective short term)option is to remove expenditure on non essentials.</p>
<p>Regarding the property market we are told that many people have taken out credit on the basis of the increase in equity in their properties. We are now in the situation where the banks are now reigning in credit. Even the last reduction in base rates by the Bank of England was not passed on by the banks but merely used to shore up their profits so could we not postulate that the cause of this &#8216;impending&#8217; recession has been 1) The greedy banks who place their profits above all else and<br />
2) The &#8216;pulling forward&#8217; of expenditure by the readily available credit (Again the fault of banks chasing greater profits) which has created a glut of spending.<br />
3) The governments strategy over the last two terms has been to run the economy at a deficit on the basis that they will look at &#8217;sustainable debt&#8217; over an economic cycle. Well that debt is now going to come back to haunt them as the previous strategies of governments is to borrow money during recessionary times to smooth out the impact. That strategy is no longer available as the UK has probably reached the limits of its own available credit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bannatyne way, or the Osborne way? by Ozbon</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/16/the-bannatyne-way-or-my-way/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As another example of when not to "DIY", I'd suggest accountancy and company accounts.

Yes sure, you *can* DIY when it comes to all the paperwork, accounts, and Inland Revenue documentation, but (in my experience) you just don't know enough to be sure you're safe. Having an accountant do your figures for you and submit them a) suggests responsibility to the Inland Revenue - that you're at least aiming to do the right thing and b) uses the accountants extra knowledge of Inland Revenue's foibles - you're likely to get better tax advice, expenses advice etc. from an accountant rather than just "Well I *think* I can get away with that".

To me - having done it both ways with a limited company now - having a decent accountant to handle that (and the payroll stuff) just makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another example of when not to &#8220;DIY&#8221;, I&#8217;d suggest accountancy and company accounts.</p>
<p>Yes sure, you *can* DIY when it comes to all the paperwork, accounts, and Inland Revenue documentation, but (in my experience) you just don&#8217;t know enough to be sure you&#8217;re safe. Having an accountant do your figures for you and submit them a) suggests responsibility to the Inland Revenue - that you&#8217;re at least aiming to do the right thing and b) uses the accountants extra knowledge of Inland Revenue&#8217;s foibles - you&#8217;re likely to get better tax advice, expenses advice etc. from an accountant rather than just &#8220;Well I *think* I can get away with that&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me - having done it both ways with a limited company now - having a decent accountant to handle that (and the payroll stuff) just makes sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bannatyne way, or the Osborne way? by Ozzy</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/16/the-bannatyne-way-or-my-way/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - You are right, knowing the legal technicalities of his industry no doubt did play an important role in the success of the homes. However, I do believe that there must be a line drawn between researching your industry and a false economy of doing everything yourself to save a few bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John - You are right, knowing the legal technicalities of his industry no doubt did play an important role in the success of the homes. However, I do believe that there must be a line drawn between researching your industry and a false economy of doing everything yourself to save a few bob.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bannatyne way, or the Osborne way? by John</title>
		<link>http://www.ozzy.co.uk/blog/2008/05/16/the-bannatyne-way-or-my-way/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, but when it comes to nursing homes actually going through the legislation himself might well have been a contributing factor in his success. 

At least that's the impression I got from the book and a couple of the interviews he's done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, but when it comes to nursing homes actually going through the legislation himself might well have been a contributing factor in his success. </p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s the impression I got from the book and a couple of the interviews he&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bannatyne way, or the Osborne way? by Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree.

Would even add that its obviously more complicated than that in reality.
In hindsight, sure everyone can choose the right thing. But when getting a company formed is alien and the first quote one sees is exorbitant. Doing it oneself appears best. Keep looking for a better quote? Sure, but when its your first company, with 10,000 other pressing things to do and no money to allocate to anything, a DIY/ "take it all on" mentality is high on the agenda.

Consequently, planning a roadmap and assigning ones focus and attention depends highly on circumstance:
On ones resources, stage of development, industry, knowledge/experience/contacts in that industry and Business model. A person's ability or willingness to plan, allocate funds, to be a manager and delegate, to be a control freak and not... 

I would imagine that traders, which is essentially what his first business was, typically create most of the value by themselves, leaving other functions to be carried out by low value add administrators...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree.</p>
<p>Would even add that its obviously more complicated than that in reality.<br />
In hindsight, sure everyone can choose the right thing. But when getting a company formed is alien and the first quote one sees is exorbitant. Doing it oneself appears best. Keep looking for a better quote? Sure, but when its your first company, with 10,000 other pressing things to do and no money to allocate to anything, a DIY/ &#8220;take it all on&#8221; mentality is high on the agenda.</p>
<p>Consequently, planning a roadmap and assigning ones focus and attention depends highly on circumstance:<br />
On ones resources, stage of development, industry, knowledge/experience/contacts in that industry and Business model. A person&#8217;s ability or willingness to plan, allocate funds, to be a manager and delegate, to be a control freak and not&#8230; </p>
<p>I would imagine that traders, which is essentially what his first business was, typically create most of the value by themselves, leaving other functions to be carried out by low value add administrators&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Train from Within, Develop Loyalty by Aaron Wakling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Wakling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Blog. I will continue reading it in the future.  Nice layout too.

Aaron Wakling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Blog. I will continue reading it in the future.  Nice layout too.</p>
<p>Aaron Wakling</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspiring Young Entrepreneurs by how to become an entrepreneur at a young age</title>
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		<dc:creator>how to become an entrepreneur at a young age</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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